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Smart Meters...
#1
Lightbulb 
Have any of you had these fitted?

I got the offer yet again and a bit of pressure to accept, but as I asked...just what are the benefits to having them? Obviously I was given the corporate lines...

Naturally I didn’t say I was in the industry as .... I sometimes don’t see the public’s opinion of them in the cold light of day!

I declined. As I like to shop around for the best price and what is more important to me... customer service! Having none smart meters makes this so much easier at present. In the near future new smart meters will allow you to change supplier which won’t involve a meter change as you change supplier....
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#2
We have a smart meter fitted to our place but gain no benefit from it for 2 reasons; 
1 the little graphic interface unit was left by the previous owners with a letter from their supplier and meter installer (Powergen iirc) saying not to use it as the power adapter was prone to setting alight and a new adapter will be supplied (which has never turned up) so we can't see the usage an appropriately bollock the person who is wasting it
2 our energy supplier (First Utility) who we were frustratingly tied into still insist I have to send them monthly readings, even though when we moved I specifically asked if they would be taking over responsibility of the smart meter and they said yes.

I think we are an anomoly and I should really get on to Powergen to get a new power adapter, but I don't see any reason not to have one fitted – changing suppliers doesn't involve changing meters, there's never any physical change.
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#3
We had one fitted when we moved to our current abode about 4 years ago and also got the safety warning, however since we're still with the same supplier the new one turned up and has been working fine without going on fire.

We still have to have the meter read once a year to confirm it's not sending them the wrong readings though, we're with Eon.
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#4
Bastards keep pestering me - call after call after call.
Keep telling them to go forth and multiply 

Can’t see the reason to have one anyway.
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#5
The lazy Bastards can keep coming to read my meter I can’t even be arsed to read the one I have when I get the email “your meter reading is due” it’s on the out fecking side of the house
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#6
(14-05-2018, 11:42 AM)Ledwardio Wrote: I think we are an anomoly and I should really get on to Powergen to get a new power adapter, but I don't see any reason not to have one fitted – changing suppliers doesn't involve changing meters, there's never any physical change.

Here’s the bad news....

At present, your supplier First Utility isn’t a meter operator....they will rent the meter off whoever owns it.

Now then the functionality of the smart meter can only be used by the supplier who fitted it as OFGEM at present mind, only allow suppliers to use their own meter operators to fit said meter. This in turn means data integrity.....

If you leave the supplier who fitted the smart, the meter has all configuration deleted and it reverts to a normal meter which requires reading. 
If you want smart functionality.... you will need to appoint a supplier that offers it! And it will require a meter change.

Soon.... this is about to change, it will return to fit and forget. It was decided the old system is unworkable. Whoever fits the meters is no longer a problem, your newly appointed supplier will be able to use the other suppliers meter.....

If you choose a supplier who hasn’t got access to smart systems, basically, you’re buggered. Back to manual reads!
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#7
Fair enough I hadn’t realised. When I asked First Utility if they’d be taking over the Smart Meter  and they said Yes would have been an opportunity to mention they wouldn’t use the functionality, but then the customer care aspect is shit so I’m not too surprised. But I’m not bothered really it’s no hardship to read it now and again. 

That is a crazy system - some bright spark must have got a bonus for coming up with that.
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#8
Don’t see what’s wrong with physically reading your meter.
Why would I want to see what I’m spending every minute of the day? Be buttons by more jumpers  Big Grin
And why would I want some unscrupulous company knowing when I stick the kettle on etc?
More big brother if you ask me.
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#9
I think utility companies and the council should be added on the same list of insurance, money grabbers, price increases & nout you can do about it.
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#10
Doc, I think the main benefit is that they get to increase the price sooner, when even the slightest increase in consumption occurs, all so you can better budget of course.
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#11
BBC have raised this vexed subject again....

They do have a point. 

The public were promised savings... Remember! Smart metering was brought in by the last.... date I say Labour government under the auspices that these things will save you a lot of money.
Now, let’s be non partisan here, I must reiterate this! 
Labour detest the utilities being in Private hands, as do I, let’s get that straight from the start.

Now, Labour always have, and always will want to dictate how we live our lives.... they have to! As that is socialism! Everyone is (supposedly) on a level field. Bollocks I know, but that’s the ethos.
They also need to know a lot about you in order to let’s says enforce this? Otherwise, how else do they know all are equal?

So with that, smart metering was a heavily disguised way of finding out just what you and me are upto behind closed doors.... Rolleyes Your energy usage! You perverts!

So it was all sold under a banner of saving you more money. Alas.... greedy suppliers and Labour were bound to meet head on.... 
it’s a sure vote winner, batter the energy companies, put tariff freezes in... publicly humiliate the big 6, now 4 in reality......

Come a Conservative Government and .... whey hey! Happy Days are here again! Prices up! Service down... but in the cesspit of politics and big business who gives a monkey’s! The cash register ringing is more a constant hum and both are happy. Profits are high, taxes are rolling in!

That’s how the public are percieving this project.

That’s my political colon irrigated so to speak....

In reality.... our energy consumption is rising together with that.... we ain’t getting paid anywhere near as much as we should.... oh dear!
The direct consequence of that is...... (drum roll, please...) you pay more! This is to cover the amount of energy stolen or simply not being paid for....

Now, surely you are thinking.... what on Earth are they doing to rectify this situation...... Angel
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#12
(21-07-2018, 08:00 AM)DrMarten Wrote: BBC have raised this vexed subject again....

They do have a point. 

The public were promised savings... Remember! Smart metering was brought in by the last.... date I say Labour government under the auspices that these things will save you a lot of money.
Now, let’s be non partisan here, I must reiterate this! 
Labour detest the utilities being in Private hands, as do I, let’s get that straight from the start.

Now, Labour always have, and always will want to dictate how we live our lives.... they have to! As that is socialism! Everyone is (supposedly) on a level field. Bollocks I know, but that’s the ethos.
They also need to know a lot about you in order to let’s says enforce this? Otherwise, how else do they know all are equal?

So with that, smart metering was a heavily disguised way of finding out just what you and me are upto behind closed doors.... Rolleyes Your energy usage! You perverts!

So it was all sold under a banner of saving you more money. Alas.... greedy suppliers and Labour were bound to meet head on.... 
it’s a sure vote winner, batter the energy companies, put tariff freezes in... publicly humiliate the big 6, now 4 in reality......

Come a Conservative Government and .... whey hey! Happy Days are here again! Prices up! Service down... but in the cesspit of politics and big business who gives a monkey’s! The cash register ringing is more a constant hum and both are happy. Profits are high, taxes are rolling in!

That’s how the public are percieving this project.

That’s my political colon irrigated so to speak....

In reality.... our energy consumption is rising together with that.... we ain’t getting paid anywhere near as much as we should.... oh dear!
The direct consequence of that is...... (drum roll, please...) you pay more! This is to cover the amount of energy stolen or simply not being paid for....

Now, surely you are thinking.... what on Earth are they doing to rectify this situation...... Angel
as always Doc a man with his finger on the pulse
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#13
Did laugh at this and yes another way for the Gov to spy on us.
Neighbour getting his fitted on Monday - love winding him up with this !
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#14
We'll all be forced to have them sooner rather than later. Your just putting off the inevitable. 

Was hearing the other day. The Government (uk) are insisting, that every single house hold - has to have a power point fitted for electric cars by 2023 I think it was. 

Seems a sure fire way to set up a company before it kicks off. You'd make a feckin fortune. 

My point is. Change is coming and there's fuck all you can do about it. By by combustion engine. Just saying!
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#15
(23-07-2018, 07:51 AM)lbk Wrote: We'll all be forced to have them sooner rather than later. Your just putting off the inevitable. 

Was hearing the other day. The Government (uk) are insisting, that every single house hold - has to have a power point fitted for electric cars by 2023 I think it was. 

Seems a sure fire way to set up a company before it kicks off. You'd make a feckin fortune. 

My point is. Change is coming and there's fuck all you can do about it. By by combustion engine. Just saying!

Pipe dream, from the team that brought you "Brexit will be fully planned and implemented by March 2019"
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#16
I don't see how they can save you money, unless the prices become cheaper for the actual supply of fuel.
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#17
MarkW7 Wrote:I don't see how they can save you money, unless the prices become cheaper for the actual supply of fuel.


The theory is that because you can see what energy you are using you will make an effort to use less, or at least persuade your other half to by bollocking them every time they re-boil a kettle and such
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#18
Oh dear!

Yes! I have heard they cause domestics!!
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#19
Lee now drinks cold tea Laugh
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#20
Best get my C&G install outdoor car power sockets qualification done then so LBK can set up said business & I can work with strong Dave who no doubt will be retrained from putting up door out of order signs  Laugh
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